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PostSubject: Humans aka Non-Kin   Humans aka Non-Kin EmptySat Feb 20, 2010 4:07 pm

On many otherkin forums, I notice that people seem to think that they are not human, are somehow better than other humans, or have some kind of higher knowledge than other humans. First off...we might have non-human souls/energies/what-have-you, but in this life we are human. Our genes tell us we are human. We speak human languages, we eat human foods, we love other humans, we take part in human societies. Thus, for all intents and purposes, we are human.

Being otherkin does not give us some kind of divine knowledge, higher worth, etc. So other people bother you? Well how do you know they too aren't otherkin? How do we know for sure that we're not all suffering from the same mental disorder and are all loonies? Long story short, we don't. We, as otherkin, do not have "powers" or "abilities" that non-kin do not. Past life memories may give us insights that others don't have, but that goes for kin and non-kin alike.

Now, people annoy me just as much as the next girl, but it isn't because they're non-kin. Plenty of otherkin annoy me just as much, if not more. I think the otherkin community often gets a bad rap because we come across as finding ourselves to be superior...well, folks we aren't. We suffer the same diseases, heartbreaks, let-downs, losses, etc. as every other human on the planet.

What does being otherkin get us? Maybe some insights, knowledge, ridicule, stereotyping, you get the idea and have probably witnessed the down-sides first hand at some point (if not, you will). But who's to say that non-kin don't also have something to offer? They too have knowledge, insights, abilities, etc. There's nothing an otherkin can do that a non-kin cannot do or learn to do...and I am a firm believer in this.

In this life, we are human for a reason. We are here perhaps to learn, grow, influence, a few are probably here as punishment, but that too is cause to learn. I hope it is realized that when otherkin sit back and complain about "humans" and not "other humans" that they are missing the point of this incarnation entirely. As I've already said, there's no way for us to know that these "humans" we complain about aren't otherkin. I mean, if you ask them before you type about them, do correct me...but I know I've complained about "humans" before reaching these conclusions...I've been just as guilty...having no idea if "humans (aka non-kin)" is truly what they were.

The bottom line in this book-sized post is this: I think the otherkin community as a whole needs to take a step back and realize their humanity, for humanity has a lot to teach us all. Humans, as a species, are very versatile. If we all spent less time complaining about "being stuck here in human bodies" and more time trying to understand and learn from our humanity, the otherkin community as a whole would be a much happier place.

If you've read this whole thing and thus made it this far, thanks for reading. Again, I tried my very best to type this out diplomatically and non-offensively, so please, if this post made you mad, take a deep breath, go for a walk, calm down, and then really read this over again.
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PostSubject: Re: Humans aka Non-Kin   Humans aka Non-Kin EmptySat Apr 24, 2010 2:07 pm

Of course I'm replying to these posts like 3 months later... I guess it took me that long to think of a response =).

If you're troubled by the otherkin response to humans, well, it's because we are superior to humans!!!111one!

Just kidding. Delusions of superiority are delusions. All beings are equal in the universe. Similarly Wink humans tend to think they're superior to other humans, to things that are not human (like animals), and to things that aren't animals (the earth, plants, water, etc.).

Delusions.
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PostSubject: Re: Humans aka Non-Kin   Humans aka Non-Kin EmptySat Apr 24, 2010 4:05 pm

I hope that, I make sense on this remark!

"The only illusion for us here and now is that both a delusion and illusion are only an allusion!"

Sounds stupid but think about, it for a moment... and then forget it! Thank Freud for that one!

Ouza
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PostSubject: Re: Humans aka Non-Kin   Humans aka Non-Kin EmptySat Apr 24, 2010 4:54 pm

Interesting. I think sometimes we focus far to much on the first two and not anything like enough to the last one.

i think that statement is by and large very right.

We are so busy worrying whether things are 'real' that we focus far too much on their 'reality' and far too little on their meaning. We stare so hard at the finger we never see where it is pointing.
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PostSubject: Re: Humans aka Non-Kin   Humans aka Non-Kin EmptySat Apr 24, 2010 5:21 pm

Beautiful words for a beautiful maiden:

Love's Harvest:

"From the Genesis of our created love,
Springs this season of celebration,
Signs and wonders from above,
Brought forth Revelation.

Within this, our day, I sow my vows,
The seeds to my remaining life,
Surrendered, here-in, to Beauteous Bride
Now stood before me as was my Wife.

Love's olive tree, so rich with fruit,
Shoots forth from soil of hearts divine,
To end the season of love's pursuit,
For now the world has once again made you mine.

Amongst the wheat there grows no weeds,
For this love I hold is pure and true,
The love that blossoms from these seeds,
Flourishes, wishglow, only for you.

And, so I raise my hand,
With glowing heart I lift my voice,
To thank fate for a Love so Grand,
And the once Bride who still makes my heart rejoice."


Ouza


p.s. Sorry, a little off topic but had to be expressed!
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PostSubject: Re: Humans aka Non-Kin   Humans aka Non-Kin EmptyWed Feb 05, 2014 8:17 pm

So in this time as we are here we are humans..but also are not? So...do we have any physical trace of what we were? Like anything, abilitys don't count ._. (And if we pick places well..I wonder why I picked this place an not some other world light years away)
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PostSubject: Re: Humans aka Non-Kin   Humans aka Non-Kin EmptyWed Feb 05, 2014 10:02 pm

Xeiro Flora wrote:
So in this time as we are here we are humans..but also are not? So...do we have any physical trace of what we were? Like anything, abilitys don't count ._. (And if we pick places well..I wonder why I picked this place an not some other world light years away)

I guess whether you believe you have any physical trace of what you were depends on...well, you, and your beliefs on it.

I personally do not think so, my body is human, through and through. But that does not necessarily mean there was not some divine intervention somewhere in my bloodline. I believe angels and deities and spirits can manifest or be born into flesh, kind of like how I am incarnated now.

Just because the body is human, does not necessarily mean the spirit or soul is. I see myself as both angel(/deity) and human.

As far as why you would pick this place, that is something only you can answer. I have been enmeshed in life here on Earth for as long as I can remember. It is just part of who I am.
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PostSubject: Re: Humans aka Non-Kin   Humans aka Non-Kin EmptyWed Feb 05, 2014 10:13 pm

Just because the body is human, does not necessarily mean the spirit or soul is. I see myself as both angel(/deity) and human.

Oh cool..angelic myself :3
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PostSubject: Re: Humans aka Non-Kin   Humans aka Non-Kin EmptyThu Feb 06, 2014 4:18 am

Xeiro Flora wrote:
So in this time as we are here we are humans..but also are not? So...do we have any physical trace of what we were? Like anything, abilitys don't count ._. (And if we pick places well..I wonder why I picked this place an not some other world light years away)

While not always the case, a few people claim to have some resemblance to a past life.
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