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PostSubject: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:19 am

Hopefully this is in the right place! If it is not, please feel free to move it. I have not been on these forums for a long time (I think my intro was back in 2012!). So I thought it might be helpful to give a quick rundown of my story as I have rediscovered and lived it the past decade or so.

I have some scattered memories of before any wars. To be honest, the wars are kind of blurry. I remember being attacked by Samael, but that is about it until the fall of the Grigori, of which I was one.

I did not actually fall, then. I went undercover to try and gather information to report back to Heaven about the angels who had fallen. I do not know if that ever panned out, because being amongst the fallen shook everything up for me. I wound up declaring myself neutral, and leaving both Heaven and Hell.

Eventually, I took up residence in ancient Crete under the name Britomartis. I stayed with my people until they were too scattered to remember me in a context for me to stay around.

I spent a few more lifetimes on Earth as a human, then threw in the towel and retreated into solitude. I was eventually dragged out because my health plummeted and there were a tiny handful of entities who wanted to see me still alive.

I was nursed back to health by Zagzagael, and eventually joined his area in Hell...and became somewhat of a walk-in on Earth, to spend this lifetime with him here, too.

I now formally align myself with Hell, but as far as I know, I am not barred from Heaven. I still have regular interactions with a handful of angels as well as deities. To toss some names out there, the angels I interact most with are Zagzagael, Sariel, Samael, Rahab, and Asmodeus. Also Alaniel, Michael, Raphael, Gabriel, and Uriel, until relatively recent. As far as deities go, Zagreus, Ariadne, Dionysus, Hades, Nyx, and several others from the Cretan and Greek pantheons.

Hopefully that did not come across as too devoid of emotions or self-righteous; I could easily go on and on about it, but wanted to keep it as short as possible! If anyone has any questions, please feel free. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:05 am

3 of those names I remember.

Samu'el- My lover before he left, part of me still loves him Smile

Sari'el- the angel that tried to kill me, but didnt have enough time to finish the job so Raphi'el healed me.

Dionysus: A name from another life.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:09 am

Zadki'el wrote:
3 of those names I remember.

Samu'el- My lover before he left, part of me still loves him Smile

Sari'el- the angel that tried to kill me, but didnt have enough time to finish the job so Raphi'el healed me.

Dionysus: A name from another life.

Oh and Micha'el and Gabri'el both my teachers directly and indirectly.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:41 am

That sounds a lot like the Sariel I know. I love him, but my usual advice to people is not to seek him out for reasons similar to that. We used to not be able to be in the same room together for two minutes, before we were at each others throats.

Samael did a real number on me back in the day, and it was not until a couple of years ago the injury fully healed. We get along much better now, and I love him a lot.

Dionysus, a name from another life...a life of yours? That would definitely be interesting to hear about!

I used to stand alongside Michael and Gabriel. I remember getting along okay with the latter, but Michael and I always fought. The last time I ran into him, we quickly wound up with him holding his sword to me. At this point in my life, he is kind of like Lucifer - love him, but keep my distance.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:54 am

Micha'el I'm not sure if he liked or disliked me, he did treat me weird when he found out of me and Sam's relationship, but soon eased up. Gabriel is the one who requested to Michael to take me on as his student. I met someone that identifies and both Micha'el and Sari'el and we've pretty much made up and are friends. Although I haven't spoken to Sari'el in months and Micha'el a day or so.

As fo the dionysus part ah sure, though it's sort of a touchy subject in my opinion lol.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:05 am

I am glad you guys were able to make up. I have a hard time seeing that in the cards for me. I seem to have burnt )or at least seriously damaged) some bridges when I formally aligned myself with a realm of Hell.

And no worries on the Dionysus thing. I can understand the touchy, I feel that way about one of my names being the goddess Britomartis, and I do not know many people who have ever heard of her - strange, since I know Remiel is not an unknown name. I guess I am more comfortable talking as Remy because I have had over a decade to come to terms with it, versus the less than three years for the other.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:23 am

I feel I've come across the name Remi'el before, but I could be wrong. I dont remember much and I havent heard of the name..well I get a feel from it. Just not so much a spot on feeling from it.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:32 am

Speaking from a more general standpoint, Remiel is sometimes listed as one of the seven archangels (the listings based on Enoch). The name is mentioned in one of the versions of the Book of Enoch, as well as in Baruch where Remiel is the angel who interprets the protagonist's vision.

I tend to take the standpoint that Remiel is synonymous with Eremiel, Jeremiel, and Ramiel. It is a topic of debate among scholars, but personally so far, for me, seems to fit. If you go by that, the name also comes up in Ezra, Zephaniah, and probably something else I am forgetting because it is late.

Translations of the various names tend to be Angel of Hope, Angel of Mercy (in action), Compassion of God, Angel Set Over Those Who Rise, Thunder of God, blah, blah, blah...

And in pop culture, there is a character in Neil Gaiman's Sandman by the name; there is a whole series of detective books with an incarnate Remiel; he is a character in a game called Tales of Symphonia, was mentioned briefly in Paradise Lost and the move Gabriel...

...so, long story short, chances are good you have come across the name in one way or another. ^^;
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:15 am

In Tales of Symphonia, Remi'el is an angel (which in the game is a half-elf modified and made biologically immortal through the use of a gem called a Cruxis Crystal which is an especially potent form of mystical and mysterious gems known as Ex-spheres, which are essentially crystallized human souls) workin for the villainous organization Cruxis. He's—relatively speaking—a very minor character in the game, at his most important serving as a boss at a rather early point in the game during a HUGE plot twist. He is killed by... someone afterwards. Saying who would be a MAJOR spoiler.

The world of the game is actually two worlds that exist on separate but parallel planes. They once existed as one. The goal of the main villain (a half-elf as well) is to revive his sister who's been dead for thousands of years. He was almost entirely dependant on his sister emotionally and physically and her death came to drive him mad, to the point of an extreme and almost entirely indiscriminate hatred for humans. He ended up comitting a long-lasting genocide in an effort to succeed and then let the two worlds, which survived by vying for a single energy source in the form of the Tree of Mana's seed's energy in turns.

When one world (either Sylvarant or Tethe'alla) flourished, the other would fall into decline until its theoretical death. To reverse the flow of energy, a sacrifice, known as the Chosen One was to be prepared through a series of trials before finally actually being sacrificed (the real purpose of the Chosen One is actually also a HUGE spoiler; sorry!).

The two planets, before they split, were originally sustained by the Tree of Mana, but the tree died and the world split during an enormous war known as The Great Kharlan War.

Not sure if that's helpful or relevant at all, but I just thought it might be (any spoilers actually mentioned in whole are relatively minor, so it's not a huge deal xO). Plus, since the game is so valuable/rare nowadays, and a lot of people seem to not have heard of it, it's fun to share my expertise on it. ;3c

~Meti'ne, who has actually played and beaten Tales of Symphonia twice
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:18 am

Meti'ne wrote:
In Tales of Symphonia, Remi'el is an angel (which in the game is a half-elf modified and made biologically immortal through the use of a gem called a Cruxis Crystal which is an especially potent form of mystical and mysterious gems known as Ex-spheres, which are essentially crystallized human souls) workin for the villainous organization Cruxis. He's—relatively speaking—a very minor character in the game, at his most important serving as a boss at a rather early point in the game during a HUGE plot twist. He is killed by... someone afterwards. Saying who would be a MAJOR spoiler.

The world of the game is actually two worlds that exist on separate but parallel planes. They once existed as one. The goal of the main villain (a half-elf as well) is to revive his sister who's been dead for thousands of years. He was almost entirely dependant on his sister emotionally and physically and her death came to drive him mad, to the point of an extreme and almost entirely indiscriminate hatred for humans. He ended up comitting a long-lasting genocide in an effort to succeed and then let the two worlds, which survived by vying for a single energy source in the form of the Tree of Mana's seed's energy in turns.

When one world (either Sylvarant or Tethe'alla) flourished, the other would fall into decline until its theoretical death. To reverse the flow of energy, a sacrifice, known as the Chosen One was to be prepared through a series of trials before finally actually being sacrificed (the real purpose of the Chosen One is actually also a HUGE spoiler; sorry!).

The two planets, before they split, were originally sustained by the Tree of Mana, but the tree died and the world split during an enormous war known as The Great Kharlan War.

Not sure if that's helpful or relevant at all, but I just thought it might be (any spoilers actually mentioned in whole are relatively minor, so it's not a huge deal xO). Plus, since the game is so valuable/rare nowadays, and a lot of people seem to not have heard of it, it's fun to share my expertise on it. ;3c

~Meti'ne, who has actually played and beaten Tales of Symphonia twice

Whoops. I meant to say that the villain's plan was to leave the two planets to rot away if he succeeded with his plan. I forgot to put that in!

~Meti'ne
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:22 am

I do not mind the spoilers. I have purposefully avoided playing the game because of Remiel's role in it. I have seen enough pop culture versions to want to fire anyone who might possibly head the PR department in this regard.

And I do not know whose bright idea it is to keep shipping Remiel with Lucifer in so many fictional stories out there, but...well. There would be definite advantages to being someone with a lesser-known name, that is for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:35 am

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I do not mind the spoilers. I have purposefully avoided playing the game because of Remiel's role in it. I have seen enough pop culture versions to want to fire anyone who might possibly head the PR department in this regard.

And I do not know whose bright idea it is to keep shipping Remiel with Lucifer in so many fictional stories out there, but...well. There would be definite advantages to being someone with a lesser-known name, that is for sure.

No weirder than the people who ship the one colloquially known as God, or Jesus with the Judeo-Christian interpretation of Lucifer. xD

People have written sexual stories with such pairings. I personally find it kinda disturbing.

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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:46 am

Shipping Lucifer with Jesus or God at least makes more sense to me, since they are often portrayed as some kind of duality, at least. Versus throwing Remiel in there randomly. Part of me wants to blame Neil Gaiman for that one since that is the only story I can think of where the two interact, but still.

And I have totally read one of the stories you are referring to, and while part of me was unnerved, it was actually really well written, lol.
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:56 am

That's... actually a VERY good point... XD

But somehow, I can't help but somehow think that the fact that people make well-written fanfiction with such ships is a bit weird somehow, but that's just me lol. To each his/her own. xP

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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:36 am

Ir's always the days that I forget to check the forum that a whole slew of posts come along.  Very Happy 

Anyways, welcome back to the forums, Rem! Let's hope we can resolve a bit of that "bad blood" between you and Micha'el, eh?  Wink 

About the whole "undercover agent" thing. It seems very familiar to me. I think I've always known, but it was never at the front of my mind, so to speak. Interesting. I should find out more. I wish I didn't have 5 cartoon projects lined up, so I could research like I used to.

I hope to see more from you around here!
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:57 am

I prefer to be called Remy, rather than Rem, if you do not mind.

I am not entirely averse to resolving the bad blood between Michael and I. It goes back a long ways, and there was always a bit of butting of heads between us. It is just that the way things have gone between us lately, I do not have the energy to actively seek out reconciliation. I am a spiky, ornery old bastard.

Regarding the undercover agent part of my history, very, very few angels knew at the time that I was going undercover - most thought I was casting my lot in with those who were falling. Michael was the main other one who knew, and did not approve at all; that was the start of our falling out.

It is common knowledge among discarnate angels, now. It made me very, very unpopular (i.e. a walking target) in most of the realms of Hell until I made some alliances and amends for the past acts. I would not say I am widely well liked, but I have a close knit family, and that is enough for me.

I have fallen out of the habit of researching as well! I hit a wall with most of the stuff that I have not been able to get past yet, so have been mostly focusing on my life here.

And thank you for the warm re-welcome!
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:41 pm

Remiel wrote:
I prefer to be called Remy, rather than Rem, if you do not mind.

I am not entirely averse to resolving the bad blood between Michael and I. It goes back a long ways, and there was always a bit of butting of heads between us. It is just that the way things have gone between us lately, I do not have the energy to actively seek out reconciliation. I am a spiky, ornery old bastard.

Regarding the undercover agent part of my history, very, very few angels knew at the time that I was going undercover - most thought I was casting my lot in with those who were falling. Michael was the main other one who knew, and did not approve at all; that was the start of our falling out.

It is common knowledge among discarnate angels, now. It made me very, very unpopular (i.e. a walking target) in most of the realms of Hell until I made some alliances and amends for the past acts. I would not say I am widely well liked, but I have a close knit family, and that is enough for me.

I have fallen out of the habit of researching as well! I hit a wall with most of the stuff that I have not been able to get past yet, so have been mostly focusing on my life here.

And thank you for the warm re-welcome!

No problem. I can call you Remy.  Wink 

The whole falling out can be understood. If you didn't agree with Michael, and went against his advice, then he'd probably hold a grudge. Judging by my experiences nowadays, he can hold a grudge for a really long time.

Well, since your research has slowed like mine. I'd recommend looking at all of these posts on the site. I'm sure you'd be able to learn some new things from all of us.  Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:04 pm

Always the last one to the party Smile Hi Remy
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PostSubject: Re: A Quick Summary of What I Remember   Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:29 pm

Thank you for the warm welcome, Ishtahar!

As far as Michael goes, that was really just the inciting incident. We were still on speaking terms for a really long time after that. I think the final straw was when he wanted to speak to me a couple of years ago about doing something in relation to some of my old duties and Heaven, and I wanted nothing to do with it. But that answer was not okay, apparently, and that is when things kind of blew up.

I plan on reading through some more of the forum, but I am not sure I would consider that research in my book. I am used to having my nose in a theology or history book for that.
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