ARCHIVE: Where We're Going, What do we expect to happen?

From Dreamsend 2 Jun 2008

I feel inspired to post a topic on the visions that I've had of the future and what I am - realistically - expecting to occur.

I may have to do some research (in journals that I kept in the past) for this; I'm not sure if I'll be able to remember everything that I've ever seen. To try to get everything, though, I'll just have to start from as far as I can remember and put everything in order from there.

When I was 5 and/or 6 is the farthest that I can remember having intense feelings about the role I had for the future. I literally felt that I had a role in "saving the world," knew it wasn't by physical means but through "unseen" means, maybe mental - spreading ideas - emotional - healing the wounds - or spiritual (i.e. the sort of War that we've been talking about, I think). I felt that I had to help a vast amount of beings and if I "couldn't manage it", didn't manage to do it, I at least had to help about ten or twelve specific people that were waiting for me in the future to meet them and work through their issues.

In my early adolescence I started being visited by a/the Goddess and consequently having jumbled images about the return of Christ (ascended, 12 dimensional) energy, the return of a/the Goddess of plants and the earth, and awakening everyone/thing in a great "explosion" of light, that jolted everything into wakefulness at once. I felt that I was one of many people being visited with images like this all at once, and that "they" were looking to communicate successfully with just a few people if they could take the messages they were trying to convey.

When I was about 17, 18 I started having new visions about the future of the people of Earth. This was around the year 2000. One vision was of the earth shortly to come. I saw the people of Earth distinctly splitting down a line into 2 sides, like iron filings do to magnets. I saw the people who favored being awake, life, love etc. splitting from the people who favored being asleep, selfishness, fear, staying the same and as things have always been. Then when they were completely separate a war would occur to determine who would conquer/which way of life, since the Earth could only support one whole being, not a polarization of energy. (In the U.S. at least, I felt saw this start to very visibly occur around politics several years later, though I don't know if the people are still as polarized as they were, so...).

Another vision I had concerned bringing "light" to certain parts of the Earth. Now, I should say I don't know exactly what "light" is. It is certainly "bright", otherwise I dont' what it constitutes or brings. I always assumed it was a good thing and have no reason to think otherwise, i.e. the Sun, light, encouraging light and growth. Anyway, I had several visions that were all part of the same vision. Groups of people gathering to do work of various kinds for various purposes, one group "gathering" in spirit to specifically become pillars of light. They were scattered and separated across the world in different parts of diffent countries and all simultaneously began to "pull" light from above down into themselves and "root" it into the earth.

In specific concern to the kin community I don't know exactly what I'm waiting for. I have been waiting for some years for the "Veil" to fall, whatever that means and do expect the otherside to merge and/or make itself known to this side. To some degree I know that's part of the reason I'm here: to help the transition in joining the Spirit world and this one. And consciously, I don't have visions or feelings about an oncoming War, and I never have. But I have consciously been able to pick up hints from myself through the feeligns of having to train for something that is "coming", through unconsiously responding to info about oncoming threats that I don't know anything about, and through feeling that all around me the spirits that mean to help are watching and waiting that has me aware at all that something is coming that I need to know about.

-- Dream's End


From Dreamsend 6 Jun 2008

I'm curious what other people see happening. What's your realistic (what you honestly think will happen, no matter how fantastic) view of the future?


From Ishtahar 7 Jun 2008

I think that there will be a war of some kind. I dont think it will be a physical war but the repeat of one we have fougth before on another plane in another time.

We either manage to unite as a world to fight and win the war breaking through to a new world of unity and understanding, rebuilding our future with magic returned to the world and all its peoples living in peace and companionship

Or we wont unite and / or lose the war and will be consumed by darkness and our souls enslaved for eternity.

Hmmmmm

Ish


From Azaz'el 11 Jun 2008

There is the belief held by some that there are some'enlightened' beings in the world who are actually afraid of humanity. Why? Because they refuse to understand or accept that the way forward, our entire evolution, is tied up with humanity. Such a short and brief life each time, such passion, such anger, such pain and joy.... an intensity that is contained in such short years that no other race had experienced. When you live for many years and can be seen to be almost 'immortal' then the urgency to taste the marrow of life doesn't exist and before you know it, centuries have passed.

Humanity was the final evolved species to come into existence (so far). It is through them that we will grow and evolve and learn what it means to be alive in this physical plane. And so the last war came to pass and also the changed flow and manifestation of energy. Now, all of us Kin can only incarnate in human form, forcing us to face the short and brief life that humanity has to teach. And still there are a narrow minded few who cling to their lives and do not want change, do not want evolution and refuse to accept that such a 'simple' species as Humanity will show us all the way forward in evolution.

There will be a war, if not global then at least civil. There will be death and bloodshed, and this will happen on a different level of existence initially. But gradually there will be civil war physically, guided by some misguided Kin who seek to hold on to their own lust for power and their belief that they are the only ones who can guide Humanity.

This is why we need to unite, so that we can remove those petty and jealous few who now have immense power in their hands, and bring about a unity that will unlock the evolution of us all. And that needs to be done in time for us to learn and evolve before the old 'enemy' comes knocking at our universe.

Not a lot to do than really. blink.gif

Az


From Faddewr 11 Jun 2008

Now where have I heard all that before....


From Azaz'el 11 Jun 2008

You have probably heard it all in the chats and threads and posts on this forum Faddewr, that is part of the reason why we're all here.

Or perhaps you're referring to the first times when this happened originally? That is the last time I heard this before, or at least something like this... and as I recall it was me saying it. cool.gif

Az


From Faddewr 11 Jun 2008

I've heard it echo down the halls and through the ages.

I hear it when the wind blows through the oak trees, and when the little flies with their buzzing circle past in dizzying acrobatics.

I've read it in Don Quixote, MacBeth, Lear and others work of fiction fair and foul.

It's the old, old story, Az.


From Azaz'el 11 Jun 2008

Indeed it is, and do you want to know the most frightening part about it all? We never learn from it.

It has been known throughout the ages and still the same mistakes were made, still the same pain and trouble was cast down upon the players and those who were linked to it. Over and over again, without the chance or hope to learn and stop it. That is why now, this time, is so important, because we are here and we are remembering and this time, if we listen, if we learn and remember and take responsibility for all that we do and say and feel......... this time we can end this cycle and perhaps find some peace.

None of us can say we know all the answers, none of us can say we don't belong or have a part to play, as we are all here, all part of it. But this time we are remembering and this time we can make a difference. Or we can site back and do nothing and blame others. Which is it to be?

Az


From Faddewr 11 Jun 2008

The old, old story is like the Eternal Waltz.

This isn't the first. And it won't be the last.

All we can do is dance.


From Azaz'el 12 Jun 2008

As I have said, I hope and pray to any of the Gods that will listen that this is the last, that this time the Cycle will end and a new one will take its place, one that is happier, more fullfilling and has a brighter outcome for the development of all races.

How about the rest of you?

Az


From Dreamsend 13 Jun 2008

QUOTE
"...it won't be the last."


I feel that this actually may be the last. It's a strange and rare point in the whole history of the human race and the earth so far, why there's so much "hullabaloo" being made about right now ^^. That's why this particular fight is so important. There is the chance at this point in time to sort of "interrupt the spinning record" scratch and lift the needle off mid-song. It won't be easy, for anyone. A lot of people will have to learn to change, very dramatically, or perish. This is sort of a "split" in the road of the path for the human race and the beings residing with it, what we do with that opportunity is ours to grasp.

In talk of ascension, and evolution, and war, it's all the same thing. it's all referring to that cataclysmic - for some, peaceful for others - inturruption of the song play on the record.

....Sorry, other taking over. I said I don't have any conscious knowledge.....


From Ishtahar 13 Jun 2008

Don't apoloise for taking over. It is important that everyone contributes what they can even if it doesnt seem significant or make sense because all the little insignificant thiings which dont make senes on their own fit together to make the big significant thing

How about now?

Future thoughts?

Ash

Interesting that you should re-awaken this topic, Ash. I was actually going to start a new one, but it fits perfectly into this thread


I think I always knew I was here for a reason, I just didn't necessarily know what it was. When I was about 10, give or take a few years, I suddenly knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that I was here to "save the world." At the time I was much more interested in helping the animals and nature in general. I really didn't care about Humanity much. That has changed over time. I've really grown to appreciate Humankind and their creativity, curiosity, determination, and so many other qualities.

When I was a little bit older I saw that the Earth could be a garden paradise where people lived in peace in and with nature. And I wanted to help make this happen.

Now, these things are all very nice... but I had no idea how to make it happen, no practical "next step."

I've been at this Awakening thing for quite a while now. I finally feel pretty grounded and stable in who and what I am, though I know there is always more to remember and learn, and things could completely change at any point... However, now that I feel confident in who I am, I am left with a feeling of, "That's great. So now what?" Because I truly feel that there is more to being here than simply experiencing life, yes that is important in and of itself, but this time there is a greater purpose or reason. I also find it interesting that so many Angels/Shadow, Avatars, Otherkin, and so forth are incarnate right now. Makes one wonder I agree that "something is coming." Things are happening, things are going to change. It will be a radical shift. And we're the ones to help bring it about. The future that we've been talking about no longer feels so far away. To me, it feels like it is starting.

In the last few years I've gotten a better idea of what I need to do. I want to bring magick back to the world, true, deep, natural, tangible magick, and teach it to people. I want to do things like physically shift into an animal, conjure fire out of thin air, blast light and energy out of my hands, and move objects with my mind. I've felt convinced all my life that I should be able to do things like this, and don't understand why I can't (other than, you know, Science). Yes, there is some magick now, like divination, working with energy and intention to create things in your reality, talking to spirits, energy and herbal healing, wiccan/pagan/etc rituals, and so forth, but it feels like only a shadow of what could be possible. And I don't just want these powers for my self... I feel like, if these types of powers became an every day thing, it may shift the consciousness of the masses, and they may begin to believe... something. I don't know, lol. I just hope it would shift it in a good way...

I want to bring magick back to the Earth. I want to be a transition between the worlds. I want to lift the Veil, so to speak, if only just a little. I know it's very Harry Potter/Hollywood movie about anything magical, and this could be dangerous, and it might not even be possible, but I want it so much!

I feel my next step is to study, research, learn, and practice as much as I can. I see myself in a big library reading dusty old books on magick or ancient knowledge. As I don't know if I'll be able to find a place that has books like that, I would really appreciate it if someone could recommend some books or other things to me! After I've learned how to do things, I feel like I should teach it to others.

I've thought about joining one of those online magick schools... but the descriptions always dissapoint me. It seems that the things they teach are either things I already know how to do, have no interest in, or they are much too caught up in the ritual and tools (I really have no need for either of these).

Cool =)

I think I must have tapped into your intentions for serious since right after I made this post I read this old thread about rending the Veil - https://fallenshadow.darkbb.com/t22-archive-the-duties

I do think that's a fantastic plan, of course, and I will help you in your endeavors.

Some good resources for learning about magick... well I suppose it matters what sort of magick. Soem books that come to mind are The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho, Druids by Morgan Llywelyn, any book or research on Huna (Hawaiian Shamanism)

Hey, sorry it took me so long to reply. I had a medical emergency earlier this week and had to go to the ER... I'm alright now.

Thank you for your help I hope we can continue to work together toward this goal.

Thanks, I'll look into those books. I'm mostly interested in the conjuring fire, moving objects with your mind type magick. But I know there's more that is also important to look into.

Glad to hear you're feeling better Elly, and hope it wasn't anything too nasty to deal with at the time!

It was a trip to read this archive thread, and put myself back in 2008 in the process. It still seemed so far away, then. I remember as well, back in '99 while I was preparing for college, thinking over and over that it really didn't matter much in the scheme of things if I continued school or not, because "in another few years it won't make any difference anyway." That didn't make sense to me at the time, except for how my oldest friend and I had been arguing since we were kids about whether the world would "end" (not literally, we agreed, but most everything in our lives would change) in 2011 or '12.

Ash sounded spot-on to me, with the polarizing effect she described. I'm still searching for my place in all of it, though one of the lessons I'm being taught now is to have patience, and wait for things to reveal themselves without trying to guess or force anything. Apparently, I need to play guitar, and start scrying a lot. I've never managed to stick with the former for very long, and the latter fills me with fear every time I think of it. That is something I also need to face, and take a good long look at. I think that very soon, there are going to be a lot of people becoming very frightened, and angry, and unstable. I think the soulful ones are going to need to band tightly together, and not be afraid to take hard-line stances on what they truly feel. I think love is going to be the thing that either makes or breaks a person during this time, and society is going to radically change from the current mode of consumerism, to something much closer to agricultural/barter. Communities will become smaller and more closely knit, because anyone left to themselves will literally be scrambling to survive. As to what will be happening below the surface while this is going on... maybe that's what I'm supposed to be scrying for, and why I'm so afraid to.

Scratch,
Music can be a very powerful tool. It can convey emotions, messages, and magick in a way that many other means can't.
As far as scrying... it is better to know what is coming than to get blindsided by it. And if we know what is to come, there is a better chance we can prepare for it or even change it. Or maybe you can even find some answers, or something that will help us. Some key or path that leads to the light.
<3
Elly/Ari'el

Well, I just found a crystal ball this weekend that demanded to go with me, and seems like a perfect scrying tool. Of all things, it's called Metamorphosis Quartz. I'll let you know if anything interesting comes up, since I can't stop playing with it and staring at the optical effects it does, anyway.

Hm cool! Have fun with it

I have a crystal ball that came to me as a gift. It is a particularly fine object but, so far, it has been totally silent to me