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Azaz'el Admin
Posts : 1084 Join date : 2010-02-02 Age : 55 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:08 pm | |
| Perhaps he is doing his old trick and bringing people together, to share, to talk, to understand and to laugh. He loved to be amongst friends. | |
| | | Scratch
Posts : 670 Join date : 2010-02-20 Age : 43 Location : Hawai'i, Oceania
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:23 pm | |
| ::GRIN:: I think so. I also think he did something wonderful to heal my heart. | |
| | | Ishtahar Admin
Posts : 1158 Join date : 2010-02-05 Age : 60 Location : Wales
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:42 pm | |
| Sounds like Dan | |
| | | Myth
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-03-13 Location : USA/Germany
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:47 pm | |
| So Eden was the name of the city, and Albion was where? The village outside the city?
Scratch, I'm curious what you mean by that statement. Without being too personal, can you elaborate?
Myth | |
| | | Scratch
Posts : 670 Join date : 2010-02-20 Age : 43 Location : Hawai'i, Oceania
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:15 pm | |
| I do a half hour meditation, first thing every morning. Normally, the point of this exercise is to clear my mind, by singularly focusing on my third eye. Sometimes, though, visitors pop in my head and work with me during these. A few weeks ago, a spirit appeared who I had never seen before. I keep shields up, which only allow the good and helpful in, and he felt very positive, but mischievously dodged the question when I asked who he was and what he was doing here. Instead, by way of introduction, he healed a deep fissure in my heart. I got a picture in my mind's eye, of my heart in two separate pieces existing side by side. He sort of welded them together with a golden white light, so they were completely joined again. I could feel a physical rush go up through me as this happened, and after, felt as if my body had been split in half before, and is now functioning as one unit. Tension I have had as long as I could remember in my shoulders has been gradually, continually letting go since, as well as in my lower abdomen/pelvis, and slight misalignments in my posture have corrected. I sing with far more confidence now, and no longer have that latent fear that everyone is somehow out to get me. It is much easier for me to see both sides of an issue now, and determine the underlying truth. I couldn't thank him enough, and he stuck around to hear me keep trying. As I was at work, I asked why I kept wanting to call him "Danny," and he said his name was Dani'el. I told him I know you, Az, and the response was like a happy atom bomb going off. But he says there's a block in place separating you two. He said it was created during the war, and he doesn't know what it is (which is at least part of why its still there), but it's huge and deep and prevents you from contacting each other the way he did me. It seems to be getting chipped away at though, since I was able to put this down. I'd say it's just a matter of time before someone finds the way through. I hope so; he misses you just as much. | |
| | | Myth
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-03-13 Location : USA/Germany
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:46 pm | |
| My heart is dancing with joy for both you and Az. Thank you for sharing that Scratch. I'm so glad I asked! Myth | |
| | | Ashtart
Posts : 1373 Join date : 2010-02-06 Age : 41
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:36 pm | |
| Wow!! I'm so happy for you and for Azaz'el! | |
| | | Azaz'el Admin
Posts : 1084 Join date : 2010-02-02 Age : 55 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:15 pm | |
| Thank you for sharing that with us Scratch....... it means a lot to me. I have been told in the recent past that there was a blockage that was preventing him from contacting me. I was also given to symbol under which to search for him, but so far I have not found a way to bridge the gap between us. It's good to know that he has been missing me.... there are times it feels as if we'll never meet again. As for Albion, Myth, that is one of the old names for the island of Britain, the land of the Lesser Gateway. Az | |
| | | Scratch
Posts : 670 Join date : 2010-02-20 Age : 43 Location : Hawai'i, Oceania
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:58 am | |
| I would have sooner, but something was making me wait. Timing seems to be exceedingly important in this, but I want to do what I can to help you guys find each other again. He seemed to have been losing hope that way too, which may have been part of the problem. Initially, it seemed like a "maybe, maybe not," but I at least am feeling more and more confident we're all going to find each other again, soon. | |
| | | Myth
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-03-13 Location : USA/Germany
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:37 pm | |
| I've been wondering... Is Dani'el incarnate in physical form, or is he Shadow once again... in his original form? I ask because I have seen his name this week as part of a set of oracle cards, and in several other places after I searched, and he is identified as the the angel of marriage and relationships. He seems to be something of a healer of hearts, which is exactly the type of healing you describe Scratch. So if this is the same Dani'el, then he's working as a healer in conjunction with other Shadow/Malakhim/Angels.
Has anyone seen the books by Doreen Virtue? I downloaded one and found it interesting (Earth Angels) because it talks about the different types of non-human incarnates that are becoming the trend - Angels, Elementals, Star Person, Walk-ins, and Wise Ones. There's even a handy dandy little quiz to help you identify which one you might be (yes, folks... I scored 6 out of 7 in the incarnated angel category). Now where's my halo... hmmm? Anyway, I found it interesting enough that I downloaded another book. I find her work fascinating from a certain standpoint, although they seem very... sunshine and kittens. Some of it rings true, but some of it doesn't. It's hard to explain. However I thought I'd throw it out there because she identifies Daniel as one of the angels who often comes through with her clients, and it's almost always "heart" related issues, which makes me think it's the same Dani'el given your healing and conversation with him, Scratch.
Which brings up more questions...
Some of the angels are depicted/identified as female. Are there male oriented and female oriented angels, as well as non-gender ones?
How often are angels created? The author writes that angels are created every time God thinks of love, so there are countless, numberless angels... and more are being created all the time - which if true could change the outlook of things since, as a new generation is born, old hurts are healed (think segregation, prejudice, the Holocaust of WWII, etc... things that happened in recent human history that have significantly been corrected by future generations).
Does anyone know if more Shadow being born, or is this just wishful thinking?
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| | | Scratch
Posts : 670 Join date : 2010-02-20 Age : 43 Location : Hawai'i, Oceania
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:10 pm | |
| I was very interested to read that he's specifically linked to hearts, Myth. I'm quite convinced Dani'el is in physical form, and some kind of workaholic genius of multitasking. I've talked to other spirits I know for a fact are incarnated, and he reads exactly like one of them, but I can't understand how he's managing to be so powerfully present, while getting his own day-to-day stuff done. As I understand, he has a very full life. I think of angelic forms as without gender, but personality traits are often considered feminine or masculine, which is where that may come in. I've only seen them referred to as male traditionally, and there seem to be more men than women among angelics I've met, although usually there's some aspect of androgyny going on. Perhaps that's why people sometimes think I'm a guy, even when I'm wearing a skirt. Aside from my mohawk, I really don't look like one. Which angels did you see depicted as female? Furthermore, I think God IS Love, so that would mean everyone is an angel. Quite a nice idea; perhaps we all simply need to wake up, and it's just a matter of how attuned we are. | |
| | | Azaz'el Admin
Posts : 1084 Join date : 2010-02-02 Age : 55 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Sun May 02, 2010 11:12 pm | |
| I hope and pray with all of my heart that Dan is physically incarnate and living very close to me!!! I have no idea how he is able to do all the things he does, or did. I know I'm usually extremely busy in life, bu he was always up to his neck in doing things and helping people. As for gender, all Shadow generally have no gender. But, as we moved down the ranks to crystalise our energy into physical form, we tend to end up being the male energy form. Or at least we did. There is a chance of course now that we can be in female form, as being Human is a whole new ball game. Az | |
| | | Myth
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-03-13 Location : USA/Germany
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Mon May 03, 2010 5:40 am | |
| I ask about the gender thing because a lot of the angel research I've been doing has depicted many female, as well as male, angels. Don't laugh, but Gabriel is one who often is portrayed as female (Gabrielle). That definitely does not seem right to me. But some also give male and female counterparts to the archangels, so... I don't have the information in front of me right now, but maybe I'll start a thread in the future once I do.
I was happy to hear that Dan might be in physical form, Az. That would make it easier to connect. If he pops up again, someone needs to remember to tell him to go online! But when I saw his name in conjunction with the Oracle cards (in the Table of Contents), I have to admit... it gave me pause. Then the search I did on his name yielded very little information until I put in Daniel Angel of Marriage and even then I had to go 10-11 pages in before I got much, but what I could find was so close to what Scratch had described that it was almost too much of a coincidence. So I ordered the cards, specially to get a better look at that card. I don't know what I'll do with them when I get them - I've never used Oracle or Tarrot cards before - but I really feel a need to see them. About half are female angels.
Myth | |
| | | Scratch
Posts : 670 Join date : 2010-02-20 Age : 43 Location : Hawai'i, Oceania
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Mon May 03, 2010 7:08 am | |
| - Myth wrote:
- I was happy to hear that Dan might be in physical form, Az. That would make it easier to connect. If he pops up again, someone needs to remember to tell him to go online!
Funny you should say that. It's hard to say what gets retained by the conscious mind: I have total recall of many spirit conversations, but also know I had one which the other person remembered, while I only wondered why their mental image kept popping up, unaware anything had been said. Still, I've been trying to point him here, and promise not to freak if it works. ;P It does a world of good to hear my experience was so close to your research. I didn't even know people had written about him. That made me giggle to think of Gabriel as a woman, and I think that's interesting those cards drew you so. I never had much interest in tarot, until a deck jumped into my hand once, and stayed for several years. I don't have them anymore, and don't feel the need for another set (unless I finish the ones I drew, which I called "The Shadow Deck," long before I heard of any of this) but they can be useful. I'd be interested to see that card, if you have a link, or can put a pic up when you get them. | |
| | | Myth
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-03-13 Location : USA/Germany
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Mon May 03, 2010 8:17 pm | |
| I never had much interest in Tarot either, Scratch. I'm not sure I want to know the future, so divination always sort of turned me off. I also just plain don't know much about them. I would never have ordered those cards if I hadn't seen the name Daniel related to them, but when I did I felt compelled to buy them. I'll definitely find a way to pass the image on, probably via photo. If I could have found a picture of it without ordering them I would have! I'm actually interested to see the other cards as well. I'm wondering if Gabriel will be Gabrielle... if he is a she then I'll take a picture of it, too, and pass it on. The theme of the deck is angel messages, btw. There is a booklet that goes with them, so I'll pass on that info as well. Amazon is quick, so I expect to get them this week. I got confirmation of shipping a few days ago. I also ordered a book which I hope will yield more more information. Here's the link for the cards: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1561709069/ref=oss_productYep, I just looked and Gabriel is Gabrielle! Click on the picture of the book and "Look Inside". Notice there are a lot of female names... I also ordered this one by the same author: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1401907598/ref=oss_productIf you have time, "Look Inside". As I said before, this author has some interesting ideas, but it seems very "sunshine & kittens" to me, for lack of a better way to describe my feelings towards it. But I still want to see what she has to say. One thing that might strike certain people as funny is the statement where she describes the archangels as "large, loud, and powerful but extremely loving and egoless." What made me buy it was page 5 where she identifies the two humans who ascended to angeldom... I know one will be Metatron, but I want to know who the other she refers to will be... and previews only go so far. That's why I asked about Sandalphon - he was my first guess but who knows? I had a gut feeling that he was another ascended human and was shocked that Azaz'el and Razi'el both confirmed it. Yay me! I'm really curious to see this particular book, but I know I'm going to be ticked off when I see it. I just have a feeling... I am wondering... could there be some substitutions going on here? I mean, who's to say that the being she supposedly sees really is Micha'el? I don't know, I'm even confusing myself. I still don't understand what the motivation would be for such a deception. I mean the goal is ascension, so what am I missing here? I feel like there's something... Does anyone else have any thoughts? | |
| | | Ousa
Posts : 928 Join date : 2010-03-07 Age : 77 Location : Kansas
| Subject: A Different Perspective to take into consideration! Mon May 03, 2010 9:36 pm | |
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| | | Azaz'el Admin
Posts : 1084 Join date : 2010-02-02 Age : 55 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Mon May 03, 2010 11:03 pm | |
| The angel sculpture in Rosslyn Chapel is believed to be the only sculpture in existence today of Semyaza.
Az | |
| | | Myth
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-03-13 Location : USA/Germany
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Tue May 04, 2010 5:08 am | |
| It seems more like a character sketch than a biography to me, Ouza. Something about it just doesn't feel right to me. *shrug* Just my impression, nothing more.
Myth | |
| | | Scratch
Posts : 670 Join date : 2010-02-20 Age : 43 Location : Hawai'i, Oceania
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Tue May 04, 2010 10:05 am | |
| Weird. The name Shemayaza (spelled as I was hearing it) popped in my head while I was at work, and there is all this here.
I didn't really get the first link, but that second site is very interesting. Thanks for sharing, Ouza. | |
| | | Azaz'el Admin
Posts : 1084 Join date : 2010-02-02 Age : 55 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Thu May 13, 2010 10:12 pm | |
| It's fascinating that you spelled the name as you heard it. One of the things you will have seen from both Ish and I is the fact that when we type his name, it's Semyaza .... but it is pronounced Shemyaza.
This is also just a name he was known by.... a reference to who he was, a nickname that stuck, and not his true name.
Az | |
| | | Scratch
Posts : 670 Join date : 2010-02-20 Age : 43 Location : Hawai'i, Oceania
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Fri May 14, 2010 7:25 pm | |
| I was wondering about that. It took me forever to even notice you dropped the "h." Do you have any idea what it means, as a reference to who he was? | |
| | | Azaz'el Admin
Posts : 1084 Join date : 2010-02-02 Age : 55 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Fri May 14, 2010 10:28 pm | |
| Who Semyaza was? Have you not noticed the amount of times his name pops up? Well, in a nutshell he is the leader of the Grigori and the love of Ishtahar. So just slightly important! Az | |
| | | Gypsy
Posts : 160 Join date : 2010-08-16 Age : 53 Location : USA
| Subject: Confusion and chaos... Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:30 am | |
| Hey everyone, to those who have not met me yet my name is Gypsy. I have been reading all of your posts and it seems like all of us are in the same boat, trying to figure out what the heck happened and why...here are some theories of mine and a few visions and dreams I had...not saying that this is how it went down before the war but its worth a shot to say something anyway...I remember a dream where I was walking on a beach and the sand was pristine white and the water was the most beautiful color of blue and green you have ever seen, I felt at peace, I heard a voice call my name (don't remember my name as always... , but I turned toward the voice and looked into the sky and the voice was coming from the sun, it was a very deep voice and I was able to stare at the sun with no problems, anyways...I do believe that the Source was speaking to me and the next thing I knew he was standing beside me (sorry guys I cannot remember what he/she looked like) he asked me to walk with him and he was asking me to do something for him, and that is when I was asked to come to earth and bring home the fallen. I agreed because of course I wanted to please him/her but at the same time I felt what he/she needed me to do was the right thing. I honestly don't think I'm the only one he/she has asked to do this, considering what a great task it would be, and how hard it might be to find every single one and hope that they are ready to go home...then in another dream I remember seeing what I have always thought was a star exploding...(I remember telling my dad as a child that I have seen a star explode..of course he didn't believe me..) and then I was drifting, not falling to the earth and it was night and I was dressed in white and I had long dark hair, I remember seeing mountains and what looked like mud dwellings...I think I was in Europe..not sure.. and as I hit the earth I immediately went to my knees and looked up to the stars and heard the voice of the Source once again reminding me of my mission, I nodded my head and flew off...yes flew...and my wings were white... Not to offend anyone I promise..but I honestly don't believe that the Source had anything to do with the war and maybe he/she felt that the fall was necessary in order to thread out who was for him/her or against the Source...but then that brings me to the statement that Az made about how he would have to question why we all suffered and those of us who are still suffering and trapped unable to reach their loved ones.... and I also believe that the bible has been misinterpreted over and over again for the selfish gains of those who never understood us anyway...did the Source not ask us (Grigori and Shadow) to come and watch over the human race??? Did he/she not ask us to help them?? The Source is all seeing/all knowing..don't you think he/she would have anticipated the outcome? Perhaps that is what he/she wanted to happen all along.. and perhaps the anger and jealousy really came from the shadow...who did not approve of the human/Angel contact...maybe they wanted the connection to the Source kept just for them...and in turn betrayed us...sound far fetched????....who knows...I'm sorry that this is so long, I'm just trying to understand all of this just like the rest of you...like I said not saying that this theory is the right one...just an idea...anyone else have any input??? Gypsy | |
| | | Razi'el Moderator
Posts : 527 Join date : 2010-02-08 Age : 35 Location : Ontario, Canada
| Subject: Re: Betrayal? and Star Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:44 am | |
| not at all, Gypsy. long posts are in fact, encouraged, as far as i've seen! as for the Source, that sounds about right for a being(s) seeking balance, and i don't doubt anything you've said thus far, nor have i reason to. it's been my assumption as well that this was something the Source planned, after all, it seemed that only the people who saw a problem with the current establishment ever actually Fell, so we must be down here for a reason. i don't really have much to add, other than that dreams canbe a poverful divination ability, the trick is just seperating dream from vision, eh?
peace, Raz | |
| | | Gypsy
Posts : 160 Join date : 2010-08-16 Age : 53 Location : USA
| Subject: Glad Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:00 am | |
| Hi Raz , Glad I'm not the only one who feels that way about the Source. I think a lot of doors are about to be opened...I've also had a few visions about the great pyramids...I will elaborate on those later. Take care.. Gypsy | |
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