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Ousa
Posts : 928 Join date : 2010-03-07 Age : 77 Location : Kansas
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:58 am | |
| There were two in charge of the team of 208 kind of like Capt. Kirk and a Geneticist somewhat like Dr. McCoy with the Geneticist being a Seraphim [Shemyaza] and Captain Kirk [Azaziel] Arch Angel who both had equal authority, although the Geneticist could override any and all, so for all practical purposes he held total power!
It was Shemyaza who was and did hold himself accountable for the whole thing before the council but Az being lower in rank was being mocked and held accountable for the whole incident thus becoming the scapegoat! All were slaughtered being brought into the earth's reincarnation cycles. An Angel once dead on a new or different world or plane of existence comes under its spiritual laws of give and take. And it takes thousands and thousands of years to finally escape the grasp, thus the hel syndrome {You might want to refer to the Book of Enoch}
Forgive me please for the not so heavenly terminology but it's the only way I could put it or describe it in a more practical terminology!
Needless to say this made waves [<--- No pun intended] about the overall injustice and the politics involved in heaven and its so called hierarchy and there is in fact so so much more!
We were the Garden of Eden!
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Gypsy
Posts : 160 Join date : 2010-08-16 Age : 53 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:35 am | |
| Thank you Ouza, you know I was just thinking and I'm sure most of you have already had this cross your minds, but in the so called Ten Commandments that GOD had given to Moses one of the commandments was "Thou shalt not kill"...now this is a question I would love to ask the Source...did he mean for this rule to only apply to humans?? Because as the Source has said "Thy Kingdom Come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven"...so the same rules should apply to the Shadow as well as the humans...now after what had happened with the war and all and if GOD did give the orders to kill the Fallen and the Nephilim, the message that was sent out was that it's ok to break the rules...I'm beginning to understand why the Morning Star rebelled...but...what if GOD did not give the orders to kill, what if the Shadow took it upon themselves to bring about their so called justice....sorry...so many things to think about and piece together...no more running off at the fingers...
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Ousa
Posts : 928 Join date : 2010-03-07 Age : 77 Location : Kansas
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:35 pm | |
| God never gave the order, it was the ruling council at the time who so called represented the word of God! Sound familiar, do as I say not as I do!
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Azaz'el Admin
Posts : 1084 Join date : 2010-02-02 Age : 55 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:41 pm | |
| Ouza is spot on here, any orders to carry out so called justice were taken by the Shadow for the Shadow. As with the first political stirrings within our society and the readjustments made to the Seven, done because some refused to accept the interpretation of the messages from the Source, the belief that Shadow and Human should not have any form of relations was only their interpretation. The judgements placed against us and the 'justice' carried out was purely the decision of the Shadow and not a ruling from the Source. They behaved as they believed the Source wanted them too..... Or rather they behaved as those in power told them the Source wanted them to. That's why there is such strong feeling towards the Shadow who carried out those orders.
Az
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Gypsy
Posts : 160 Join date : 2010-08-16 Age : 53 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:13 am | |
| It's very upsetting the way things had to turn out, Justice will be served and all will be forgiven, but I pray not at the price of more blood being spilled. As difficult as it may be and with as much hate that some of you still have with the shadow I do plead in the name of GOD that you please try and find it within your soul to forgive those who have wronged you, please..I will not rest until I have helped all of those who wish to go home, just to let you know that I am NOT the only one with this ability, there are others. I do know where one brother lives, the rest I can only speculate. I do know what it is to suffer and lose those close to you, I am no stranger to that, there is one Shadow who seems to find me in each life I reincarnate in and chooses to take a child from me every damn time...after so many centuries of hatred and suffering by his hands I finally found it within myself to forgive him, it was the most difficult thing I had ever done, but with that forgiveness came a sense of peace.
I finally forgave Gabriel the other day, he was lurking in the shadows of my home, I had mentioned a dream I had had with me hiding a few Nephilim and he being the shadow that destroyed them, I realized then that he has been the one causing a lot of my pain and suffering throughout the centuries, I guess he chose to punish me by taking a child of mine in each life because I tried to hide and save the children of the Fallen...very petty, cruel and twisted is it not???
I chose to forgive him because I am so tired of struggling to find the strength to hang on to my hatred, once I muttered the words I forgive you Gabriel and truly meant what I said, a sense of peace came over me and I haven't felt him around since. I understand that it's not going to be easy for most of you to just up and say what the hell?? let's do this...like I said all I'm asking is that you try to find the strength within your souls to do as I've done. You are all very special and deserve some peace of mind.
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Ousa
Posts : 928 Join date : 2010-03-07 Age : 77 Location : Kansas
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:29 pm | |
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Razi'el Moderator
Posts : 527 Join date : 2010-02-08 Age : 35 Location : Ontario, Canada
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:07 pm | |
| Samma'el was a bit of an odd duck when i knew him, that is to say i could never quite figure him out. he was an excellent coucil to keep, as his views on life were from a rather strange perspective, like he wasn't bound by the conventional rules. it must have been for him like playing one game and reading (and laughing at) the rules of another. that's the closest approximation of his personality i can give right now, unfortunately. but what i do know for certain is that he was a friend, one that wasn't afraid to put it bluntly and shatter one's pretty little illusions about any subject. brutally honest, i guess the term would be.
i was looking around for him because i was hoping he could maybe join us here one day,y'know? | |
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Ousa
Posts : 928 Join date : 2010-03-07 Age : 77 Location : Kansas
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:12 pm | |
| I did say..... all! Did I not ?
Ouza | |
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Ashtart
Posts : 1373 Join date : 2010-02-06 Age : 41
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:29 pm | |
| - Quote :
- i was looking around for him because i was hoping he could maybe join us here one day,y'know?
I hope he will too =( | |
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Azaz'el Admin
Posts : 1084 Join date : 2010-02-02 Age : 55 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:10 pm | |
| Just to add a slight correction to some information already posted in this topic.... A correction that isn't meant to provoke anything other than a deeper understanding of who we were.
Semyaza was one of the leaders of the Grigori, Azaz'el.... Or me, if you wish..... Was the other leader. But I wasn't a lower ranking Shadow. I began as Seraphim, Sem being younger was pure Grigori, but with a lot of Seraphim energy flowing through his soul. Often I am associated with Satan or Lucifer, but neither Sem or I was the Morning Star, even though I knew him well. He was a Shadow of high rank and even higher regard.
As for Samma'el, he was an old rogue, someone who never followed any of the rules, but always seemed to get away with it. He didn't have a political bone in his body, and seemed to live to laugh, learn and play tricks. He had a terrible temper but worked hard not to lose it, and was a real wild spirit. I hope he finds his way to us one day,
Az
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Ousa
Posts : 928 Join date : 2010-03-07 Age : 77 Location : Kansas
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:50 pm | |
| I now know why, you were always his hero and mentor and deeply loved! You are and were the chief reason for keeping him sane during the whole fiasco and slaughter. Even though your being senior to him in many ways his love and respect never faltered for you! As a brother he still and will always hold true to the truth that will hold you up in every respect! You are his hero!
Although the efforts have been long and arduous there may be for us all still a light at the end of the tunnel. But we'll see. I thank Daniel for giving me this window and chance to reach out and finally touch you on an equal set of terms! Just to let you know that, he never gave up on you and never ever will.... To the End!
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Gypsy
Posts : 160 Join date : 2010-08-16 Age : 53 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:12 am | |
| Thanks guys for the info, it helps to know more about the past. With the info that has been given about Sammael, I think I may have had a run-in with him way back when, well at least I think it was him, if so his smile is what I remember most, he was quite the charmer ..A hem....cough cough...anyway...does Semyaaza have the ability to reincarnate now? Just curious..
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MoonMeadow
Posts : 13 Join date : 2010-08-31
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:07 pm | |
| - Ellysium wrote:
- Also, does anyone know about an angel named Ari'el? I've read that Ari'el and Uri'el may be linked, or even the same thing. *shrug*
A couple of weeks ago, several of the archangels came to visit. Uri'el laughed at me or maybe with me as he explained Ari'el is his feminine form. my 2 cents worth, Moon Meadow | |
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Ousa
Posts : 928 Join date : 2010-03-07 Age : 77 Location : Kansas
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:45 pm | |
| Dear Gypsy,
I'm glad and yet sad to say that Semyaza is still here but he like Az sits and waits and only hopes that all the 144208 [you see that we have grown in numbers over the years] will be brought together. Now hypothetically if, I were an alien with a cause that feat would take at least one or two motherships, somewhere a long the size of the one that was shot at during the war over Los Angelas in 1942! Funny that's when my sister was exactly born! Timed to the tee!
Ouza
p.s. As far as I can recollect Ariel was one the gatekeepers left behind to watch our progress and to just plain help and protect us but that's just only my own recollection! | |
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Azaz'el Admin
Posts : 1084 Join date : 2010-02-02 Age : 55 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:56 pm | |
| It is generally believed that the Wards and bonds placed upon all of the 200 have now faded and that we have all incarnated into Human form. The big issue now is when or even if they will all awaken and remember who and what they are. So Sem has the ability to be incarnated and no doubt is.....!!
Az
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MoonMeadow
Posts : 13 Join date : 2010-08-31
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:47 am | |
| Ouza: I don't put a lot of faith in my dowsing. After I read your post on Ari'el being a Gatekeeper, it did jar my memory of of a Gatekeeper by that name. Anyway, I did dowse that you and I both are correct. I'm not sure how that can be, unless bi-location is a natural part of their ability. Stands Corrected, Moon Meadow ...or a bit more confused | |
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Ari'el Moderator
Posts : 737 Join date : 2010-03-30 Age : 38 Location : Upstate New York, USA
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:54 am | |
| Thanks for your answers on Ari'el... Part of the reason why I'm wondering is because I have remembered the name Arayel, and I think it refers to me.. (and it sounds an awful lot like Ari'el!) But I am still very unsure about these things. | |
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Gypsy
Posts : 160 Join date : 2010-08-16 Age : 53 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:19 am | |
| Confusion is one thing that is constant in my life these days...I can understand where you're coming from Ellysium, I think that I may have a strong connection the Angel Azra'el, Arch Angel of Death, I have several theories as to why that is...also like I had mentioned before I have a painting of the Arch Angel hanging in my living room lol, my sister and fellow fallen bought it for me because she said it reminded her of me...wasn't sure how to take it at first... ..anyway, I think we were very close before I came to earth. So many questions...not enough wine... Gypsy | |
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Myth
Posts : 187 Join date : 2010-03-13 Location : USA/Germany
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:23 am | |
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- I understand that it's not going to be easy for most of you to just up and say what the hell?? let's do this...like I said all I'm asking is that you try to find the strength within your souls to do as I've done. You are all very special and deserve some peace of mind.
Well said, Gypsy. Forgiveness is not an easy concept, but necessary for spiritual evolution. If we are ever to move on, then we have to reconcile ourselves with the past and realize that it is just that - the past. We can't change what happened, only move forward. Some will say that forgiveness is a two way street. But letting go of the anger and resentment that holds us down and binds us to the past is the first step. I can't control anything or anyone but myself, and I choose to walk in light and love rather than darkness and despair. Those who have power against us only have that power because we give it to them. The cycle has to stop somewhere. I say this in the most loving way possible. Bear in mind that I was there in the end. I know what happened and what they did to the Fallen, and the injustice of it - I saw it and experienced it. I suffered at their hands, and have continued to suffer throughout my lifetimes. But I choose to rise above it because that is the only answer... the only choice. Forgiveness is key. Myth | |
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Azaz'el Admin
Posts : 1084 Join date : 2010-02-02 Age : 55 Location : UK
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:18 pm | |
| Forgiveness is a simple word to say but a hard act to master. We first must forgive ourselves for all of our transgressions before we can forgive those we perhaps now see in a negative way.
The past must be accepted, understood and integrated before we can move on from it. The future is not yet formed. We create the world around us anew each day. Acceptance and understanding are key. But how many of us, with the whole gamut of Human emotion, can really say we have mastered any of this?
Each days brings us the chance to be true and take the small steps towards balance.
Az
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Ousa
Posts : 928 Join date : 2010-03-07 Age : 77 Location : Kansas
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:26 pm | |
| Sincere forgiveness isn't colored with expectations that the other person apologize or change. Don't worry whether or not they finally understand you. Love them and release them. Life feeds back truth to people in its own way and time.
Ouza
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Gypsy
Posts : 160 Join date : 2010-08-16 Age : 53 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:29 am | |
| That is so true Ouza...in time they find you or you find them, time does have a way of working things out . Wow...I am always on this site it seems like...I really have no life guys.. oh well...I could be doing other things and getting myself into trouble... Have a good night everyone. Gypsy | |
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Ousa
Posts : 928 Join date : 2010-03-07 Age : 77 Location : Kansas
| Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Anyone Interested in Reading-- Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:29 pm | |
| Dearest Gypsy,
All we should ever need to realize and to hold true to heart is that we still have each other as so should all of mankind for that matter! Just the ability to talk or speak freely and even write and communicate is truly a blessing in itself! Let us all try to use the times that we have as wisely and prudently as possible and be not afraid to make and mistakes!
Mistakes are a part of being human. Appreciate your mistakes for what they are: precious life lessons that can only be learned the hard way. Unless it's a fatal mistake, which, at least us and others can learn from.
"I know easy to say hard to do!" You would think that now that we live in such a golden age compared to many of the others of our past history and that we should and would hold the key in our hands by now! But sometimes we just have to make a stand on faith (spiced with alot of discernment) alone! Always stand and be prepared for anything and everything thrown in your direction!
Never ever forget "We are not alone!" And that both true love and tough love are truly unconditional!
Ouza
All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure. Mark Twain (1835 - 1910), Letter to Mrs Foote, Dec. 2, 1887
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